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Interessant artikel ang. "Købeklubber"

Nu ved jeg ikke med jer, men jeg har venner som holder med mange forskellige hold. Deriblandt United, Liverpool og andet gøgl.

 

Det er selvfølgelig op til dem, men jeg er immervæk træt af ordet \"købeklub\". Jeg er da godt klar over at alle køber spillere og at Chelsea/City fik nogle rigmænd til at bakke sig op.

 

Jeg er træt af at folk mener at klubber som Barca, United etc. selv har skabt deres hold uden penge og at de pludselig føler sig truet af noget nyt og kalder det \"nederlag for fodbolden\". Personligt har jeg forsøgt forklare dem at fodbold er som et lille marked med en høj elite - vil man ind og lege med de store drenge, så koster det. Så simpelt er det.

 

Et hold som Fulham vil aldrig nogensinde kunne tiltrække de samme spillere som fx Chelsea kan. Det er forrykt at tænke. Man ved at Fulham ikke har samme muligheder.

 

Og Stuart Brennan har beskrevet det fint i den artikel som jeg har kopieret her. Det er spændende læsning med gode pointer. Skal siges at det er skrevet d.3 maj - lige efter Citys sejr over United:

 

 

How many times have you heard the following said over the last two days, in pubs, offices and factories all around this great city?

 

“Yeah, but it doesn’t count as much because City have bought the title.”

 

Putting aside the obvious response, which is that the title is a long way from being over, it is breathtaking nonsense.

 

If you’ll forgive the mixed metaphor, you get the feeling that this particular pot, blackening the name of the kettle, is stuffed with sour grapes.

 

Of course City, if they close out this season, have bought the Premier League. But then again, which Premier League winner hasn’t?

 

The problem that United fans have got is that, under the austerity of the Glazers, they HAVEN’T bought the title, as they have been doing for the past 20 years.

 

In the history of English football, United have broken the transfer record five times. City have done it three times – and one of those was on super-flop Steve Daley 32 years ago.

 

Under Sir Alex Ferguson, the Reds have set new highs in the transfer market to bring in Andy Cole (£7million), Juan Veron (£28.1million) and Rio Ferdinand (£29.1million).

 

Since the Abu Dhabi takeover, City have done it twice, on Robinho (£32.5m) and Sergio Aguero (£38m).

 

And if that is not enough, United’s team on Monday contained the most expensive goalkeeper in English history, as well as the most expensive defender and the most expensive teenager, not forgetting the fact they had a £30million striker sitting unused on the bench.

 

Monday’s game pitted a £300million squad against a £250million squad, hardly prosperity versus poverty.

 

When Fergie won his first league title in 1993, it came on the back of a £6.75million spending spree on Gary Pallister, Danny Wallace, Neil Webb, Paul Ince and Mike Phelan. That sounds like peanuts today, but in 1989 it represented a huge outlay.

 

It paid dividends too, as the Reds won the league two years running, and they have continued to spend more than the vast majority until the relative austerity of the Glazers.

 

The only teams who have hitherto challenged United’s hegemony have been Blackburn, funded by Jack Walker’s fortune, Roman Abramovich’s Chelsea and Arsenal under Arsene Wenger.

 

Perhaps only Arsenal could claim to have won the title on anything resembling a budget, but they also spent big ahead of their title successes, splashing out over £20million on talent such as Marc Overmars, Patrick Vieira and Emmanuel Petit in 1996.

 

Wenger has a reputation as a manager who doesn’t spend, but he has flashed the cash when necessary – remember Thierry Henry (£10.5m), Sylvain Wiltord (£13m), Jose Reyes (£13m) and a chap called Samir Nasri (£15.8m)?

 

The bottom line is that the top flight of English football ceased to be a pure football competition many years ago. If you want to win the title, you need a top manager and top players, all of which cost.

 

City didn’t ruin football, as some sniffy fools have suggested. They have just joined the game, and started to play by rules not of their own making.

 

Once the notion that City are doing something wholly new and horrendous is nailed, there is an even more scurrilous nonsense dragged up.

 

“Well, yeah, everyone spends money, but United’s money is their own – they earned it, and weren’t just given it by some Arab sheikh.”

 

Of course, this is specious nonsense, the kind of tripe spouted by the fans of rich clubs who don’t want upstart oiks elbowing their way to a place at the trough.

 

This is where UEFA’s financial fair play rules come in. You would like to think they are a genuine attempt to rein in the financial madness which has enveloped football, and stop clubs spending beyond their means in a vain grasp for glory.

 

But when a club like City, financially secure through owners who are pouring millions into football and their community, is under scrutiny, you have to doubt UEFA’s true intent.

 

Blame

That makes it look like a charter for the establishment, trying to ensure that global brands like United, Real Madrid and Barcelona will NEVER be challenged.

 

United fans, and UEFA, should be looking at the priorities of the Old Trafford owners, rather than the benevolence of Sheikh Mansour, if they want to see where the blame will lie if the balance of power shifts over the course of the next 10 days.

 

There are plenty of grounded Reds fans who know this. One of their number said, three years ago, that City’s owners were supplying the Blues with ‘rocket fuel’, while United’s rulers were forcing Sir Alex Ferguson to drag a tractor behind him.

 

United rake in more money than anyone else, but sizeable amounts of their income comes from the pockets of their own fans – who have suffered huge price increases over the past five years – from concentrating their efforts to become a global brand, and from trading on the club’s name.

 

City have tried to maintain their local identity and support as well as expanding their horizons, and are active and purposeful in engaging with their community. The Glazers, meanwhile, seem most preoccupied with trying to re-balance their balance sheet.

 

That should be a far more important argument than petty nitpicking about how the money was made – it should be a case of ‘Where is the cash going?’ rather than ‘Where did you get it from?’

 

City didn’t beat United on Monday because their owners have bigger bank balance.

 

They won because they deserved to win it.

 

Roberto Mancini out-thought Sir Alex Ferguson, and his players showed a desire and determination, as well as a level of football, which proved beyond the Reds on the night.

 

No-one should forget it was the greed of United, who were instrumental, along with Arsenal, Liverpool, Everton and Tottenham in forming the Premier League, which led directly to where we are today.

 

To win the Premier League, you need to be both financially stacked and football savvy, and the two are inter-dependent.

 

So for any fans – Red or otherwise – to start bleating about it now is pathetic.

 

 

Kilde: http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/football/manchester_city/s/1492849_comment-manchester-city-buying-glory-now-thats-rich?order=liked#comments

 

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Obi

Købe klub kan defineres, City har på rekort tid købt sig til toppen, og det gjorde Chelsea også i sin tid, fra en 4 plads med et hold der var træt og udkørt til at spille med om de store pokaler. United, Real og Barca, ja gu er de da også købe klubber, ikke med rigmænd i ryggen, men hvis man tager deres hold, hvor mange af dem er fra egen rækker? Stort set alle klubber køber spiller, hvilket er naturligt og intet galt i, men jeg vælger at skille City, Chelsea & Malaga fra de andre..

 

 

Men godlæsning :)

Men Obi - for at komme fra Næsten og lige ved til Toppen af poppen, så skal der altså penge til.

 

At vinde en lille liga koster ikke meget, at komme med i de større koster mere og jo længere du vil op, jo mere skal du ofre for at komme op på de andres niveau.

 

Selvfølgelig ligger United og Gunners mv. oppe hvor de gør fordi de over en lang årrække var populære, skabte sig navne mv. Hvis jeg købte en klub og ville ha\' den derop ville jeg også skulle brande den nu.

 

Chelsea har jo netop over en periode på 10 år opbygget et navn og er begyndt at kunne tjene penge.

 

RA har jo faktisk et produkt nu, som er mere værd - meget mere værd end da han købte det.

 

Det er jo det samme som City gør.

 

Hvad angår spillere fra egne rækker:

Barca har 5 - 7 spillere... ok imponerende, men de har ikke en ny Xavi/Iniesta/Messi kombi i opløbet

Real har måske 3 spillere fra egne rækker

United har hvad... Scholes, Giggs... hvem ellers? Rooney kommer fra Toffees. Hernandez er købt. Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra, Nani... alle er købt

City har Joe Hart... hvis de havde været smarte, havde de også haft Sturridge

 

Fair nok at spillere som Rooney er enkarneret United spillere og han vil nok blive der længe fremover og være en legende for dem som Lampard er det for os (selvom han faktisk er Hammers spiller)

 

Personligt er jeg træt af denne \"købeklub\" snak. Ja man kommer til toppen hurtigere, men ingen store spillere gider at skifte til et hold som Fulham/Aston Villa/Everton uden de har indtryk af at holdene kan spille med om CL fx.

 

Fik de at vide at Everton fik en rig sheik bag sig, som ville købe mange store navne, så kunne spillerne lokkes med drømmen om et episk eventyr (som City gør nu).

 

In short... you gotta spend money, to make money

Lige præcis Michael. Som du så pænt skriver at Chelsea lige pludselig er steget merkant i værdi. Ja - hans \'lagerværdi\' er også steget i takt med at hans spillere bliver dyrer og dyrer og der bliver købt dyrt ind, ja, det er mærkevare men de bliver også bedre fordi der er flere og flere der synes godt om det. Hvad er montana uden branding? Det er et skab. Men hvorfor er mit hjem præget af det og den slags crap? Fordi jeg er en mærkeluder, jeg værdsætter kvalitet og anerkendelse. Jeg er jo også blot et menneske.

 

Min pointe er - som er utrolig svær at gennemskue, er - det koster penge at tjene penge. Hvis du ikke har et produkt at sælge af, hvordan skulle du så kunne sælge det? Underholdningsbranchen er stor, og det koster penge at være med i den. Hvad vil du helst se, HB Køge vs. SønderJyskE? eller Barcelona vs. City? Frit valg... Jeg tror ikke det er et svært valg ligegyldig hvilken farve du er.. Du vælger garantien for god underholdning, du vælger kvalitet og du vælger socialt.

 

PS. Der findes ikke længere pengeklubber, der findes kun klubber nu - for alle klubber er pengeklubber. Alle klubber \"roster up\" ved at købe udefra. Det er et marked og hvis du ikke gi\'r lidt og ta\'r lidt, så kan hjulene ikke fungere.

 

Michael: Tak for god artikel share :) God læsning.

Obi

Michael, vi er som enig for at komme til tops i en fart, skal der gerne penge til, det kan man se som jeg pointere med Malaga, City og Chelsea. Jeg er helt med på at United, Barca & Real, også køber stort ind eller har gjort, men de er ikke styret af en udlandsk ejer (United har godt en ejer fra USA), men United er sådan en stor penge maskine, så de havde stadig vært der hvor de er selvom at Glazer ikke havde købt sig ind. De (Barca, Real og United) har i gennem år 10\' nærmest år hundred, vært med og stort set altid vært med fremme, den historik kan Malaga, City eller Chelsea bryste sig af. Det kan være svært at gennemskue min pointe.

 

 

 

 

 

Steen@ Troet du bare en regulær man hore? Der kan man bare se ;) Good

 

 

 

 

 

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